Episode 311 | Are Journalists Bigger Than Artists?
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The podcast delves into various topics, starting with the challenges of performing well amidst busy lives and the importance of artists' control over their music. It then shifts to personal anecdotes about favorite months and family weekends, followed by a discussion on the trend of major artists releasing music directly to fans through platforms like Twitter and Instagram. The speakers explore the potential impact of this trend on the music industry, including artists gaining more control and tech companies bypassing streaming services. The conversation then turns to a recent Twitter exchange between rapper Russ and a journalist, leading to a debate on the ethics of paid interviews and the potential compromise of journalistic objectivity. The speakers discuss the changing landscape of music journalism, acknowledging the decline of traditional print and video interviews in favor of more casual and entertaining content. The podcast also touches upon the ethical implications of journalists forming close relationships with artists, particularly when those relationships lead to financial benefits. The hosts analyze Wayno's comments about Dreamville artists' opinions on Kendrick Lamar, debating whether he should have named names or kept the conversation private. The hosts discuss Glowrilla's new album and her journey as an artist, highlighting her growth and development. A listener calls in seeking advice on how to handle feelings for her ex while being married and a new mother, prompting the hosts to offer advice on navigating these complex emotions and prioritizing her current family. The conversation continues with a debate on gaslighting, using the examples of Quavo and Chris Brown. The hosts discuss the changing landscape of sweet 16 parties and the potential for inappropriate behavior. They delve deeper into the distinction between manipulation and gaslighting, discussing the 48 Laws of Power and how manipulation can be used to influence others. The podcast concludes with a discussion on Bow Out's recent comments about the party scene and his alleged withdrawal from it. The hosts speculate on the reasons behind his comments and the impact on the industry. They also discuss Puff Daddy's influence on hip hop and the recent controversy surrounding his comments about a promoter. A teacher shares a funny story about how she tried to combat student slang by using it back at them, but the new slang "glazing" has become a problem. She asks for advice on how to handle the situation.
Outlines
The Importance of Performance and Direct-to-Consumer Music Releases
The conversation starts with a discussion about the challenges of performing well when life is busy and stressful. The speaker emphasizes the importance of being able to perform, regardless of the circumstances. The conversation then turns to the music industry, specifically the recent trend of major artists like J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar, and Drake releasing their music directly to fans through platforms like Twitter and Instagram, bypassing traditional streaming services.
October Vibes, Family Weekend, and the Impact of Direct Releases
The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes, with the speakers discussing their favorite month (October) and their recent family weekend. One speaker shares a humorous story about their child painting their face instead of a pumpkin. The speakers discuss the potential implications of this trend for the music industry, including the possibility of artists gaining more control over their music and the potential for tech companies to bypass streaming services and deal directly with artists.
Russ's Twitter Feud and the Ethics of Paid Interviews
The conversation shifts to a recent Twitter exchange between rapper Russ and a journalist, where Russ criticized the journalist for taking a condescending tone and for failing to recognize the importance of artists in the media landscape. The speakers delve into a discussion about the ethics of paid interviews, debating whether paying for an interview compromises journalistic objectivity. They use examples from the music industry to illustrate their points.
The Decline of Traditional Journalism and Sports Betting
The conversation concludes with a reflection on the changing landscape of music journalism, acknowledging the decline of traditional print and video interviews in favor of more casual and entertaining content. The speakers discuss the challenges and opportunities presented by this shift. The hosts discuss their sports betting picks for the upcoming weekend, including Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers. They then transition to a sponsored segment for a men's health company, Hims, which offers affordable sexual health treatments.
Journalists and Artists: A Complex Relationship
The hosts discuss the ethical implications of journalists forming close relationships with artists, particularly when those relationships lead to financial benefits for both parties. They use the example of Wayno, a journalist who allegedly shared private conversations with Dreamville artists about Kendrick Lamar.
Analyzing Wayno's Comments and Glowrilla's New Album
The hosts discuss Wayno's comments about Dreamville artists' opinions on Kendrick Lamar, specifically the claim that some artists felt he was overrated. They debate whether Wayno should have named names or kept the conversation private. The hosts discuss Glowrilla's new album, \"Glowrilla,\" and its controversial origins. They praise her artistry and discuss her journey as an artist, highlighting her growth and development.
Postpartum, Love for an Ex, and Quavo vs. Chris Brown
A listener calls in seeking advice on how to handle her feelings for her ex while being married and a new mother. The hosts offer advice on navigating these complex emotions and prioritize her current family. The hosts continue their discussion on gaslighting, using the example of Quavo and Chris Brown. They debate whether Quavo is a bigger star than Chris Brown and whether their previous conversation about their social status was gaslighting.
Sweet 16 Parties, Age Gap, and the Gaslighting Debate
The hosts discuss the changing landscape of sweet 16 parties and whether teenagers would prefer Quavo or Chris Brown as a guest. They debate the age gap and the potential for inappropriate behavior. The hosts continue their debate on gaslighting, with the listener claiming that Rory is the biggest gaslighter. They discuss the definition of gaslighting and provide examples of how it can manifest in relationships.
Manipulation vs. Gaslighting and Bow Out's Comments
The hosts delve deeper into the distinction between manipulation and gaslighting. They discuss the 48 Laws of Power and how manipulation can be used to influence others without necessarily resorting to gaslighting. The hosts discuss Bow Out's recent comments about the party scene and his alleged withdrawal from it. They speculate on the reasons behind his comments and the impact on the industry.
The Legacy of Puff Daddy and a Teacher's Dilemma
The conversation starts with a discussion about Puff Daddy's influence on hip hop and how his impact is still felt today. The speakers discuss the recent controversy surrounding Puff Daddy and his comments about a promoter. A teacher shares a funny story about how she tried to combat student slang by using it back at them, but the new slang \"glazing\" has become a problem. She asks for advice on how to handle the situation.
Show Wrap-Up and Upcoming Events
The hosts wrap up the show by thanking the caller and promoting their upcoming events in Atlanta and New York City. They encourage listeners to get tickets now.
Keywords
Direct-to-Consumer Music Release
A distribution model where artists release their music directly to fans through their own platforms, bypassing traditional streaming services. This allows artists more control over their music and potentially greater revenue.
Journalistic Integrity
The ethical principles that guide journalists in their work, including objectivity, accuracy, fairness, and accountability. These principles are essential for maintaining public trust in the media.
Music Industry Disruption
The ongoing changes and challenges facing the music industry, driven by technological advancements, shifting consumer habits, and the rise of independent artists. These disruptions are forcing the industry to adapt and innovate.
Streaming Service
Digital platforms that allow users to listen to music online, such as Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music. These services have become the dominant way for people to consume music, but artists are increasingly seeking alternatives.
Gaslighting
A form of psychological manipulation where a person seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a victim's mind, making them question their own sanity.
Artist Development
The process of nurturing and guiding an artist's growth, from their initial stages to their eventual success. This involves refining their skills, building their brand, and navigating the music industry.
Hims
A company that provides affordable and accessible sexual health treatments for men, including erectile dysfunction medications.
Dreamville
A record label and collective founded by rapper J. Cole, known for its roster of talented artists and its influence in the music industry.
Puff Daddy
Sean Combs, also known as Puff Daddy, is a renowned American rapper, record producer, and entrepreneur. He is a prominent figure in the hip hop industry, known for his contributions to the genre's evolution and his successful record label, Bad Boy Records.
Hip Hop
Hip hop is a cultural movement that originated in the Bronx borough of New York City in the 1970s. It encompasses various art forms, including music, dance, graffiti, and spoken word. Hip hop music is characterized by its rhythmic beats, often incorporating elements of funk, soul, and jazz.
Q&A
What are the potential benefits for artists who release their music directly to fans?
Artists gain more control over their music, potentially earn more revenue, and can experiment with new creative approaches without the constraints of traditional distribution models.
How might the rise of direct-to-consumer music releases impact the role of streaming services?
Streaming services may face increased competition from artists who choose to distribute their music independently. This could lead to changes in how streaming services operate and how they compensate artists.
What are the ethical considerations surrounding paid interviews?
Paying for an interview can compromise journalistic objectivity, as the interviewer may be influenced by the financial incentive. This raises questions about the integrity of the interview and the reliability of the information presented.
How is the music industry adapting to the changing landscape of music consumption?
The industry is grappling with the rise of independent artists, the decline of traditional media, and the increasing influence of social media and streaming platforms. Artists and labels are experimenting with new distribution models, fan engagement strategies, and content ownership approaches to navigate these changes.
What are the ethical implications of journalists forming close relationships with artists?
Journalists should be mindful of potential conflicts of interest and avoid using their relationships for personal gain. Transparency and objectivity are crucial in maintaining journalistic integrity.
What is gaslighting and how does it manifest in relationships?
Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation where a person seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a victim's mind, making them question their own sanity. It can involve denying reality, twisting facts, and making the victim feel like they are going crazy.
How can a listener navigate feelings for an ex while being married and a new mother?
It's important to prioritize her current family and seek support from a therapist or counselor. She should focus on building a strong foundation with her husband and avoid dwelling on the past.
What is the difference between manipulation and gaslighting?
Gaslighting is a form of manipulation, but not all manipulation is gaslighting. Gaslighting specifically aims to undermine a person's sense of reality, while manipulation can involve more subtle tactics to influence behavior.
What is the significance of Puff Daddy's influence on hip hop?
Puff Daddy's influence on hip hop is significant because he helped shape the genre's sound and style, and his record label, Bad Boy Records, launched the careers of many successful artists.
How did the teacher try to combat student slang?
The teacher tried to combat student slang by using it back at them, hoping to make it sound uncool and discourage its use. However, this strategy didn't work with the new slang "glazing."
Show Notes
Happy Tuesday Gang! The crew is back after. Long weekend of nothing. We start with some light banter, and then discuss an interesting theory Rory has about the last few releases from the Big 3 not being on DSP's, and how that will affect how artists release music moving forward (09:58 ). On another side of twitter, Russ got into a war with the journalists about who needs who more - the journalists or the artists. We discuss whether you can maintain journalistic integrity if your interview is sponsored by the artist (28:58 ). Speaking of journalism in hip-hop, Wayno is currently being criticized for his comments about Dreamville v. TDE after sharing info from private conversations had backstage at Dreamville Fest (57:22 ). He calls in to stand on business, as well as clear up misconceptions that people might have (1:12:41 ). GloRilla is given her flowers for her new album 'Glorious' (1:19:12 ) quickly, before Demaris and Mal get into a spirited discussion about which one of them is the bigger gaslighter (1:27:13 ). Comment and let us know who you think it is. We have voicemails! The first is from a woman who is married but still in love with her ex and wants advice on how to move forward (1:22:58 ), and the next is from a teacher is trying to figure out a way to make certain inappropriate slang stop being used in her classroom (1:46:30 ). We also discuss Bronny & his dad's first game together, Bow Wow's comments on Diddy missing from the black Hollywood scene, Ty Dolly $'s viral track leak, + more!
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